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		<title>Comment on To Stand or Not to Stand? by Rhonda</title>
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		<author>Rhonda</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>OK i just heard of this a few weeks ago and I have been riding for almost 30 years so I had to try it out. I actually walked my horses in the paddock until they urinated. I had my husband stand and watch us. With all 5 horses when I stood up in the saddle the urine steam dwindled down for a second when I moved and when I stayed in the saddle it didn't. So from now on I would rather sit in the saddle than to disturb the horse by shifting around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK i just heard of this a few weeks ago and I have been riding for almost 30 years so I had to try it out. I actually walked my horses in the paddock until they urinated. I had my husband stand and watch us. With all 5 horses when I stood up in the saddle the urine steam dwindled down for a second when I moved and when I stayed in the saddle it didn&#8217;t. So from now on I would rather sit in the saddle than to disturb the horse by shifting around.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Stand or Not to Stand? by Henry Feldman</title>
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		<author>Henry Feldman</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>1. Anatomy wise, we are nowhere near the kidneys. A horse is a massive animal, and kidneys are a critical organ (even on humans they're pretty well protected) so they are buried very deep. And if you've ever been in the OR when you are doing retroperitoneal surgery (equine or human) it's quite a digging operation to get to them. There is bone, and like 6-8" of muscles over them.

2. Physiology wise, as everyone has mentioned, the kidneys produce urine (a staggering quantity by the way) but you could remove the kidneys after filling the bladder, and the horse could still urinate. The bladder is safely inside the pelvis, where you could beat on the pelvic wings with a hammer (don't), and the inches of solid bone plate (and the free floating nature of the bladder in the pelvis) prevent any external pressure  from reaching it. And also remember, when you urinate (older men particularly) you bear down slightly (the Valsalva Maneuver), which is deliberatively putting external pressure on the bladder to force urine out.

3. Culture. I imagine that this is purely a cultural thing, Similar to being able to train a dog to only urinate out of the house, or on a "wee-wee pad" in an apartment, I am guessing that if the horse is taught by repetitive behavior that when it urinates the rider is going to stand, then heck, that will become the norm. Horses are not known for their deductive reasoning, so they learn pavlovian style. Riding western I never heard of this. I first encountered it in the highlands of Scotland, and have seen it only at places which have "English" riding as their primary style (this is anecdotal, I have not surveyed a wide number of stables)

4. The shifting of weight. Simple physics tells us that standing does not take any weight off the horse overall. However, depending on whether you are riding english or wester, you may be putting more of your weight on the chest wall with your grip of your knees, so standing actually seems to raise the weight directly on the back. That being said, squeezing from the side might be disturbing to a horse urinating (don't know, I'm not a horse). As far as leaning going up/down, to me it's more about not falling off (by association your horse would inherit your uncoolness if you fall off, so that's a good thing for the horse) and staying in control (I can't maintain a posture on a 17-20% grade without doing some serious leaning, which is easier if I can pivot by standing on the stirrups [western]). And for the record, I have urinated just fine with a large pack on my back, so I have to agree with above, although it is slightly more awkward.

I am basically saying, there doesn't seem to be a physiologic explanation, and this is cultural training of the riders and horses.So do whatever your horse is used to (if the horse isn't used to it, you may actually startle it when you stand)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Anatomy wise, we are nowhere near the kidneys. A horse is a massive animal, and kidneys are a critical organ (even on humans they&#8217;re pretty well protected) so they are buried very deep. And if you&#8217;ve ever been in the OR when you are doing retroperitoneal surgery (equine or human) it&#8217;s quite a digging operation to get to them. There is bone, and like 6-8&#8243; of muscles over them.</p>
<p>2. Physiology wise, as everyone has mentioned, the kidneys produce urine (a staggering quantity by the way) but you could remove the kidneys after filling the bladder, and the horse could still urinate. The bladder is safely inside the pelvis, where you could beat on the pelvic wings with a hammer (don&#8217;t), and the inches of solid bone plate (and the free floating nature of the bladder in the pelvis) prevent any external pressure  from reaching it. And also remember, when you urinate (older men particularly) you bear down slightly (the Valsalva Maneuver), which is deliberatively putting external pressure on the bladder to force urine out.</p>
<p>3. Culture. I imagine that this is purely a cultural thing, Similar to being able to train a dog to only urinate out of the house, or on a &#8220;wee-wee pad&#8221; in an apartment, I am guessing that if the horse is taught by repetitive behavior that when it urinates the rider is going to stand, then heck, that will become the norm. Horses are not known for their deductive reasoning, so they learn pavlovian style. Riding western I never heard of this. I first encountered it in the highlands of Scotland, and have seen it only at places which have &#8220;English&#8221; riding as their primary style (this is anecdotal, I have not surveyed a wide number of stables)</p>
<p>4. The shifting of weight. Simple physics tells us that standing does not take any weight off the horse overall. However, depending on whether you are riding english or wester, you may be putting more of your weight on the chest wall with your grip of your knees, so standing actually seems to raise the weight directly on the back. That being said, squeezing from the side might be disturbing to a horse urinating (don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m not a horse). As far as leaning going up/down, to me it&#8217;s more about not falling off (by association your horse would inherit your uncoolness if you fall off, so that&#8217;s a good thing for the horse) and staying in control (I can&#8217;t maintain a posture on a 17-20% grade without doing some serious leaning, which is easier if I can pivot by standing on the stirrups [western]). And for the record, I have urinated just fine with a large pack on my back, so I have to agree with above, although it is slightly more awkward.</p>
<p>I am basically saying, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a physiologic explanation, and this is cultural training of the riders and horses.So do whatever your horse is used to (if the horse isn&#8217;t used to it, you may actually startle it when you stand)</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Stand or Not to Stand? by antonia</title>
		<link>http://local.homeranch.com/84/to-stand-or-not-to-stand/#comment-6908</link>
		<author>antonia</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How about when a horse does a number two? I was always told to stand up in the stirups. I also agree with Lucille from France, it makes since when you go up a hill you lean forward.  I just think it's about your position and shifting weight. When a horse goes over a jump, we change position, lean forawrd and the horse stretchs out and over the jump. 
My boyfriend totally disagrees and argues that the same amount of weight is still in the stirrups and therefore on the back.

I'm from Ireland and my boyfriend is from Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about when a horse does a number two? I was always told to stand up in the stirups. I also agree with Lucille from France, it makes since when you go up a hill you lean forward.  I just think it&#8217;s about your position and shifting weight. When a horse goes over a jump, we change position, lean forawrd and the horse stretchs out and over the jump.<br />
My boyfriend totally disagrees and argues that the same amount of weight is still in the stirrups and therefore on the back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m from Ireland and my boyfriend is from Australia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Stand or Not to Stand? by Lucille</title>
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		<author>Lucille</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm french and I think that this idea of standing up in the saddle to help horses while urinating or making an effort like climbing is coming from Europe. In France, we learn it in the first lessons: stand up in the saddle while your horse is urinating, when climbing up put your weight in the front of your horse and when climbing down put your weight on your horse's back and your shoulders at the back too. I don't know if my explanations are really understandable but to summerize I don't know who's right or who's wrong, I think it comes from different habits of different countries. You should write your nationality on your comment! And maybe you'll see... Friendly from France, Lucille.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m french and I think that this idea of standing up in the saddle to help horses while urinating or making an effort like climbing is coming from Europe. In France, we learn it in the first lessons: stand up in the saddle while your horse is urinating, when climbing up put your weight in the front of your horse and when climbing down put your weight on your horse&#8217;s back and your shoulders at the back too. I don&#8217;t know if my explanations are really understandable but to summerize I don&#8217;t know who&#8217;s right or who&#8217;s wrong, I think it comes from different habits of different countries. You should write your nationality on your comment! And maybe you&#8217;ll see&#8230; Friendly from France, Lucille.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Stand or Not to Stand? by Gina</title>
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		<author>Gina</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I, like Mr. Fisher, have learned mostly from my own experiences and other hicks, however, it makes no sense to me that standing up in the saddle is assisting my horse to urinate as my weight is still on his back, whether my rear is in the saddle, or I am standing in the stirupps.  Do some folks really believe that standing in the stirrups relieves the weight from the bars of the saddle?  Again, I'm no highly educated horsewoman, but I've ridden and worked from the saddle since before I could walk....I don't recall my horses using a different stance to urninate when I'm in the saddle versus them being loose in the pasture.  I just sit still and remain centered and the urination goes as planned.  I've owned several horses from birth to an aged death and I can't say that the older they got, their urinary system failed due to me not standing in the stirrups while they urinated through the years.....  No offense meant to Aldo, but I believe stretching out to urinate and climbing a steep hill are two different issues.  I don't believe my horse is relaxing any muscles to climb the hill like he does when he urinates.  I will say that standing in the saddle during the horse's urination may keep the urine from spattering onto your upper body as you would be further away from the splashes on the ground......hey....it has happened!  I've had it spatter onto my face before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, like Mr. Fisher, have learned mostly from my own experiences and other hicks, however, it makes no sense to me that standing up in the saddle is assisting my horse to urinate as my weight is still on his back, whether my rear is in the saddle, or I am standing in the stirupps.  Do some folks really believe that standing in the stirrups relieves the weight from the bars of the saddle?  Again, I&#8217;m no highly educated horsewoman, but I&#8217;ve ridden and worked from the saddle since before I could walk&#8230;.I don&#8217;t recall my horses using a different stance to urninate when I&#8217;m in the saddle versus them being loose in the pasture.  I just sit still and remain centered and the urination goes as planned.  I&#8217;ve owned several horses from birth to an aged death and I can&#8217;t say that the older they got, their urinary system failed due to me not standing in the stirrups while they urinated through the years&#8230;..  No offense meant to Aldo, but I believe stretching out to urinate and climbing a steep hill are two different issues.  I don&#8217;t believe my horse is relaxing any muscles to climb the hill like he does when he urinates.  I will say that standing in the saddle during the horse&#8217;s urination may keep the urine from spattering onto your upper body as you would be further away from the splashes on the ground&#8230;&#8230;hey&#8230;.it has happened!  I&#8217;ve had it spatter onto my face before!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Being a Dude Rancher by Sonia Melko</title>
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		<author>Sonia Melko</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Johnny, I was really enjoying reading this.  What a lovely trip down memory lane...Thanks!  I used to work for you back at the ranch in Granby in 1994, and used to work for the Home Ranch back in 2001/2002.  Have to say that everything I learned there, as a wrangler and with all the clinics we audited and participated in, was worth more than the best paycheck I ever made--with the added bonus of my friends and our guests!  I am now enjoying leasing-for free- an amazing mare who started out with some training issues.  Now we are doing solo trail rides, herding cows, jumping 3+ foot jumps in local shows and competing in 1st Level Dressage.  Honestly, without my background and opportunities at the Home Ranch, we'd never have become a team and managed all this.  What I find the most fun, however, is how the Classical Dressage masters, such as Steinbrecht, as well as my favorite Dressage clinician, Miguel Tavora, use the same basic concepts for horsemanship as I heard with Bill, Brian, Curt and the rest!  ...not to mention all the round-penning work helping me out with the lunging we do here!  It's fascinating and I will always owe a debt to The Home Ranch for helping me lay the groundwork for what I am enjoying now.  Take care and keep enjoying The Good Life!
-Sonia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny, I was really enjoying reading this.  What a lovely trip down memory lane&#8230;Thanks!  I used to work for you back at the ranch in Granby in 1994, and used to work for the Home Ranch back in 2001/2002.  Have to say that everything I learned there, as a wrangler and with all the clinics we audited and participated in, was worth more than the best paycheck I ever made&#8211;with the added bonus of my friends and our guests!  I am now enjoying leasing-for free- an amazing mare who started out with some training issues.  Now we are doing solo trail rides, herding cows, jumping 3+ foot jumps in local shows and competing in 1st Level Dressage.  Honestly, without my background and opportunities at the Home Ranch, we&#8217;d never have become a team and managed all this.  What I find the most fun, however, is how the Classical Dressage masters, such as Steinbrecht, as well as my favorite Dressage clinician, Miguel Tavora, use the same basic concepts for horsemanship as I heard with Bill, Brian, Curt and the rest!  &#8230;not to mention all the round-penning work helping me out with the lunging we do here!  It&#8217;s fascinating and I will always owe a debt to The Home Ranch for helping me lay the groundwork for what I am enjoying now.  Take care and keep enjoying The Good Life!<br />
-Sonia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women&#8217;s Yoga Retreat at this Colorado Guest Ranch by Maggie Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://local.homeranch.com/140/womens-yoga-retreat/#comment-6081</link>
		<author>Maggie Gallagher</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Selina,  I have contacted you before on the possibility of me attending one of your women's yoga retreats.  I would really like to sign up for the next one in May, May 25th to May31st.  Do you still have room and if so, can you please send me all the necessary information.  Many thanks, Maggie.  P.S.  I am 60 years of age and am quite fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Selina,  I have contacted you before on the possibility of me attending one of your women&#8217;s yoga retreats.  I would really like to sign up for the next one in May, May 25th to May31st.  Do you still have room and if so, can you please send me all the necessary information.  Many thanks, Maggie.  P.S.  I am 60 years of age and am quite fit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women&#8217;s Yoga Retreat at this Colorado Guest Ranch by Cynthia Welsh</title>
		<link>http://local.homeranch.com/140/womens-yoga-retreat/#comment-6009</link>
		<author>Cynthia Welsh</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Please e-mail me information on the women's yoga retreats, including costs and dates.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please e-mail me information on the women&#8217;s yoga retreats, including costs and dates.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women&#8217;s Yoga Retreat at this Colorado Guest Ranch by Selina</title>
		<link>http://local.homeranch.com/140/womens-yoga-retreat/#comment-5964</link>
		<author>Selina</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We have women of all ages!  It is always a good combination of women, we would love to have you join us!  It is possible that we would have another participant your age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have women of all ages!  It is always a good combination of women, we would love to have you join us!  It is possible that we would have another participant your age.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women&#8217;s Yoga Retreat at this Colorado Guest Ranch by v.l.</title>
		<link>http://local.homeranch.com/140/womens-yoga-retreat/#comment-5953</link>
		<author>v.l.</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am interested in the Horse Yoga program.  Can you tell me the age bracket.  I am a healthly 68 year old.  Would there be other people my age.

thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested in the Horse Yoga program.  Can you tell me the age bracket.  I am a healthly 68 year old.  Would there be other people my age.</p>
<p>thank you</p>
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